{"id":128365,"date":"2024-10-02T15:10:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-02T12:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/?p=128365"},"modified":"2024-10-02T11:49:35","modified_gmt":"2024-10-02T08:49:35","slug":"harris-es-trump-neveben-osszecsaptak-az-alelnokjeloltek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/?p=128365&lang=hu","title":{"rendered":"Harris \u00e9s Trump nev\u00e9ben \u00f6sszecsaptak az aleln\u00f6kjel\u00f6ltek"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>J.D. Vance ohi\u00f3i republik\u00e1nus szen\u00e1tor New Yorkban csapott \u00f6ssze Tim Walz minnesotai demokrata korm\u00e1nyz\u00f3val. A vita a K\u00f6zel-Keleten zajl\u00f3 h\u00e1bor\u00fas helyzettel kezd\u0151d\u00f6tt. A moder\u00e1tor megk\u00e9rdezte a jel\u00f6lteket, hogy t\u00e1mogatn\u00e1k-e Izrael Ir\u00e1n elleni megel\u0151z\u0151 t\u00e1mad\u00e1s\u00e1t. Walz hangs\u00falyozta a stabilit\u00e1s fontoss\u00e1g\u00e1t, \u00e9s b\u00edr\u00e1lta Donald Trumpot, aki szerinte \u201ea vil\u00e1g legvesz\u00e9lyesebb embere\u201d a jelenlegi helyzetben. Vance viszont megv\u00e9dte Trumpot, kijelentve, hogy a Trump-adminisztr\u00e1ci\u00f3 \u201eb\u00e9k\u00e9t teremtett\u201d, \u00e9s \u201estabilit\u00e1st biztos\u00edtott a vil\u00e1gban\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tim-walz-j-d-vance-alelnokjelolti-vita-elnokvalasztas-706583-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-128366\" srcset=\"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tim-walz-j-d-vance-alelnokjelolti-vita-elnokvalasztas-706583-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tim-walz-j-d-vance-alelnokjelolti-vita-elnokvalasztas-706583-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tim-walz-j-d-vance-alelnokjelolti-vita-elnokvalasztas-706583-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/tim-walz-j-d-vance-alelnokjelolti-vita-elnokvalasztas-706583.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mint azt a Magyar Nemzet kisz\u00farta, Walz viszont el\u0151sz\u00f6r \u00f6sszekeverte a k\u00e9t orsz\u00e1got azaz Izraelt \u00e9s Ir\u00e1nt, majd n\u00e9mi zavar ut\u00e1n \u2013 Kamala Harris besz\u00e9deihez hasonl\u00f3an \u2013 r\u00f6gt\u00f6n egy mondaton bel\u00fcl igyekezett kedvezni az Izraelt, illetve a palesztinokat t\u00e1mogat\u00f3knak, amikor \u00fagy fogalmazott, hogy alapvet\u0151, hogy Izraelnek meg kell tudnia v\u00e9deni mag\u00e1t, \u00e9s ki kell tudnia szabad\u00edtani a t\u00faszokat, valamint v\u00e9get kell vetni a humanit\u00e1rius kr\u00edzisnek G\u00e1z\u00e1ban. Walzcal ellent\u00e9tben Vance a val\u00f3di k\u00e9rd\u00e9sre is v\u00e1laszolt, mondv\u00e1n Izrael joga eld\u00f6nteni, hogy mit kell tennie a biztons\u00e1ga \u00e9rdek\u00e9ben.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">MAJOR fumble from Tim Walz out of the gate:<br><br>&quot;Iran, er Israel&#39;s ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental.&quot; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/5SwUF8mrue\">pic.twitter.com\/5SwUF8mrue<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SteveGuest\/status\/1841284416972169217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 2, 2024<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A CBS News \u00e1ltal New Yorkban szervezett \u00f6sszecsap\u00e1st Tim Walz minnesotai korm\u00e1nyz\u00f3 bizonytalanabbul kezdte, \u00e9s olykor kereste a szavakat, mik\u00f6zben J. D. Vance ohi\u00f3i szen\u00e1tor az els\u0151 pillanatt\u00f3l fogva magabiztosan k\u00e9rte sz\u00e1mon Kamala Harrisen, hogy hivatalban l\u00e9v\u0151 aleln\u00f6kk\u00e9nt most is l\u00e9phetne bizonyos k\u00e9rd\u00e9sekben.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ha Kamala Harrisnek olyan nagyszer\u0171 tervei vannak a k\u00f6z\u00e9poszt\u00e1ly probl\u00e9m\u00e1inak megold\u00e1s\u00e1ra, akkor most kellene bevezetnie \u0151ket \u2013 mondta Vance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tim Walzot, Harris harcost\u00e1rs\u00e1t l\u00e1that\u00f3an akkor szorongatt\u00e1k meg legjobban, amikor felhozt\u00e1k azon kor\u00e1bbi nyilatkozat\u00e1t, miszerint 1989 j\u00fanius\u00e1ban Hong Kongban tart\u00f3zkodott a Tiananmen t\u00e9ri t\u00fcntet\u00e9sek idej\u00e9n. A val\u00f3s\u00e1g azonban az, hogy csak augusztusban utazott \u00c1zsi\u00e1ba. A minnesotai korm\u00e1nyz\u00f3 erre azzal felelt, az otthoni k\u00f6z\u00f6ss\u00e9ge tudja, hogy kicsoda val\u00f3j\u00e1ban, \u00e9s \u201en\u00e9ha fafej.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Azon a ny\u00e1ron \u00e9rkeztem oda, \u00e9s f\u00e9lrebesz\u00e9ltem err\u0151l \u2013 magyar\u00e1zkodott Walz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A vit\u00e1ban sz\u00f3ba ker\u00fclt az Egyes\u00fclt \u00c1llamokban puszt\u00edt\u00f3 Helene hurrik\u00e1n is. A moder\u00e1tor megk\u00e9rdezte Vance-t, hogy mit tenne a Trump-adminisztr\u00e1ci\u00f3 a kl\u00edmav\u00e1ltoz\u00e1s hat\u00e1sainak m\u00e9rs\u00e9kl\u00e9se \u00e9rdek\u00e9ben. Vance hangs\u00falyozta, hogy t\u00e1mogatj\u00e1k a tiszta leveg\u0151t \u00e9s a tiszta vizet, de azt \u00e1ll\u00edtotta, hogy a demokrat\u00e1k \u201esz\u00e9ls\u0151s\u00e9ges\u201d n\u00e9zeteket vallanak a sz\u00e9n-dioxid-kibocs\u00e1t\u00e1sr\u00f3l.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Full Debate: Walz vs. Vance in CBS News Vice-Presidential Debate | WSJ\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" data-mhmlazyloadvideo=\"66fd085bd5854\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_WbKF3Qt9hg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><script data-plugin=\"mhm_lazyloadvideo\">mhmlazyloadvideo(\"66fd085bd5854\");<\/script><noscript><iframe title=\"Full Debate: Walz vs. Vance in CBS News Vice-Presidential Debate | WSJ\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" data-mhmlazyloadvideo=\"6a2466bf7ba2b\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_WbKF3Qt9hg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/noscript><script data-plugin=\"mhm_lazyloadvideo\">mhmlazyloadvideo(\"6a2466bf7ba2b\");<\/script><noscript><iframe title=\"Full Debate: Walz vs. Vance in CBS News Vice-Presidential Debate | WSJ\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" data-mhmlazyloadvideo=\"66fd085bd5854\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_WbKF3Qt9hg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><script data-plugin=\"mhm_lazyloadvideo\">mhmlazyloadvideo(\"66fd085bd5854\");<\/script><noscript><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Full Debate: Walz vs. Vance in CBS News Vice-Presidential Debate | WSJ\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_WbKF3Qt9hg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/noscript><\/noscript>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Walz a Joe Biden amerikai eln\u00f6k int\u00e9zked\u00e9sei nyom\u00e1n az elektromosj\u00e1rm\u0171-gy\u00e1rt\u00e1sba \u00e9s a napelem-gy\u00e1rt\u00e1sba t\u00f6rt\u00e9nt befektet\u00e9sekkel p\u00e9ld\u00e1l\u00f3zott.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Az illeg\u00e1lis bev\u00e1ndorl\u00e1sr\u00f3l sz\u00f3lva Vance hangs\u00falyozta, meg kell \u00e9p\u00edteni a Trump \u00e1ltal elkezdett falat, \u00e9s v\u00e9gre kell hajtani a deport\u00e1l\u00e1sokat, kezdve a b\u0171n\u00f6z\u0151 migr\u00e1nsokkal. Walz ezzel szemben hangs\u00falyozta, hogy egy \u00e1tfog\u00f3 bev\u00e1ndorl\u00e1si reform lehet a megold\u00e1s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A vit\u00e1ban sz\u00f3ba ker\u00fclt az abortusz is, amely kiemelked\u0151en fontos k\u00e9rd\u00e9s az amerikai v\u00e1laszt\u00f3k sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra. Walz azt mondta, hogy a Demokrata P\u00e1rt \u201et\u00e1mogatja a n\u0151ket \u00e9s a szabads\u00e1gukat, hogy d\u00f6ntsenek a saj\u00e1t test\u00fck felett.\u201d Vance azonban azt mondta, hogy a Republik\u00e1nus P\u00e1rt \u201ea csal\u00e1d minden form\u00e1j\u00e1t t\u00e1mogatja.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Az Amerik\u00e1ban oly gyakori iskolai l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u00e9sekkel \u00e9s fegyveres b\u0171ncselekm\u00e9nyekkel kapcsolatban J. D. Vance r\u00e1mutatott, hogy azok legnagyobb r\u00e9sz\u00e9t illeg\u00e1lis l\u0151fegyverekkel k\u00f6vetik el, m\u00e1rpedig Kamala Harris hat\u00e1rpolitik\u00e1ja r\u00e9v\u00e9n az orsz\u00e1gba \u00e1raml\u00f3 illeg\u00e1lis fegyverek sz\u00e1ma is megn\u0151tt. A republik\u00e1nus jel\u00f6lt szerint fokozni kell az iskol\u00e1k biztons\u00e1g\u00e1t, \u00edrta meg a Magyar Nemzet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Walz szerint nem szabad er\u0151dd\u00e9 v\u00e1ltoztatni az iskol\u00e1kat, hagyni kell, hogy a gyerekek gyerekek legyenek.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A vit\u00e1t a demokr\u00e1cia helyzete z\u00e1rta, amelyen a jel\u00f6ltek elt\u00e9r\u0151 v\u00e9lem\u00e9nyt k\u00e9pviseltek. Walz hangs\u00falyozta a janu\u00e1r 6-i esem\u00e9nyek s\u00falyoss\u00e1g\u00e1t, \u00e9s azt mondta, hogy a Trump-adminisztr\u00e1ci\u00f3 \u201eegyed\u00fcl\u00e1ll\u00f3 fenyeget\u00e9st jelentett a demokr\u00e1ci\u00e1ra. Vance viszont azt \u00e1ll\u00edtotta, hogy a \u201eigazi fenyeget\u00e9s a demokr\u00e1ci\u00e1ra a cenz\u00fara\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kiegyenl\u00edtett volt a k\u00fczdelem, de Vance \u00f6r\u00fclhet<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A CNN elemz\u00e9se azt nevezte a vita legnagyobb meglepet\u00e9s\u00e9nek, hogy a manaps\u00e1g kifejezetten indulatos amerikai politik\u00e1hoz k\u00e9pest ritkas\u00e1gsz\u00e1mba men\u0151en \u201enorm\u00e1lis\u201d volt, \u00e9s kiemelt\u00e9k a k\u00e9t r\u00e9sztvev\u0151 sz\u00edv\u00e9lyes hangnem\u00e9t \u00e9s szem\u00e9lyes t\u00e1mad\u00e1sokt\u00f3l val\u00f3 elz\u00e1rk\u00f3z\u00e1s\u00e1t. Vance p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul egyszer sem hozta fel a Walz katonai m\u00faltja k\u00f6r\u00fcli ellentmond\u00e1sokat, amelyeket kor\u00e1bban er\u0151sen kritiz\u00e1lt. Emellett az olyan mostanra megszokott jelz\u0151k sem r\u00f6pk\u00f6dtek, mint a \u201eradik\u00e1lis\u201d vagy az \u201e\u0151r\u00fclt.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">CBS News poll among Debate watchers: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/U4qHJKZLRP\">pic.twitter.com\/U4qHJKZLRP<\/a><\/p>&mdash; umichvoter \ud83c\udff3\ufe0f\u200d\ud83c\udf08 (@umichvoter) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/umichvoter\/status\/1841320404662591846?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 2, 2024<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A CBS felm\u00e9r\u00e9se alapj\u00e1n, melyet a vit\u00e1t k\u00f6vet\u0151 n\u00e9z\u0151k k\u00f6r\u00e9ben k\u00e9sz\u00edtettek, 42% \u00e1ll\u00edtotta, hogy J. D. Vance nyerte meg azt, m\u00edg 41% v\u00e9lte \u00fagy, hogy Tim Walz j\u00f6tt ki jobban. 17% szerint d\u00f6ntetlen sz\u00fcletett. A CNN gyorskutat\u00e1sa 51%-49% ar\u00e1nyban Vance-t hozta ki gy\u0151ztesk\u00e9nt, de ugyancsak egy hajsz\u00e1llal, b\u0151ven a +\/- 5,3 pontos hibahat\u00e1ron bel\u00fcl.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.origo.hu\/nagyvilag\/2024\/10\/a-demokrata-alelnokjelolt-osszekeverte-irant-es-izraelt\">(origo.hu\/<u>portfolio.hu<\/u>)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J.D. Vance ohi\u00f3i republik\u00e1nus szen\u00e1tor New Yorkban csapott \u00f6ssze Tim Walz minnesotai demokrata korm\u00e1nyz\u00f3val. A vita a K\u00f6zel-Keleten zajl\u00f3 h\u00e1bor\u00fas helyzettel kezd\u0151d\u00f6tt. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":128366,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2058,41,25,39],"tags":[569453],"class_list":["post-128365","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actual-hu","category-cikkek","category-videok","category-vilag","tag-alelnokjelolti-vita"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/128365","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=128365"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/128365\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":128367,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/128365\/revisions\/128367"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/128366"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=128365"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=128365"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/politic.karpat.in.ua\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=128365"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}